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01 February 2008 @ 02:37 pm
3x09 Thoughts and Ramblings  
Holy Shit!

I don't believe in the devil.


  • GORE! Grim gore! There was actual good gore this episode. Now I just have to remember to have breakfast before watching the episode because maggots? Really?! Man. *heaves*

  • The way they interwove the monster of the week with the big myth arc was neat. Pushing the story forward and being entertaining and scary all at once. You gotta love a good witch story.

  • The writers have a morbid fascination of killing rabbits. Poor little guy. *pats Dean*

  • Wow, the boys sure know their herbology. This takes geekiness to a whole new level.

  • Detectives Bachmann, Turner Overdrive? Haha, I bet this one grew on Robert Singer’s head ^___^

  • Hands up who else is in love with the scene right before Dean keels over? *raises arm* It’s kinda like a reversal of that scene we got in Fresh Blood just not quite. Dean’s missing the old role allocation as much as Sam is – even if for slightly different reasons – and instead of hopefulness, the knowledge that Sam’s just trying to be more like his older brother for life without Dean feels like a punch in the guts. It’s all the unspoken implications, love and fear that comes with this awareness that makes this scene so hurtfully bittersweet. Oh boys.

  • Don’t mess with Dean, witch. It’s going to put the wrath of a very fierce and slightly demonic Sam on you. It shouldn’t be as hot as it is seeing him all stone-faced bent at the wheel of the impala on his way to vengeance.

  • But Sammy, how could you leave Dean alone like that? Am going to have a hard time forgiving you that one. And just how lost does Dean look like when Ruby marches in? *hugs him* And still, he’s the badass. Jensen totally rocked that line. You wann a kill me? Get in line, bitch. Me likey.

  • So, that piss poor demon army doesn’t want Sam and his neck anymore? He’s so gonna kick your dead asses.

  • Great, I just know I’m going to sit here all summer going nuts over the idea of a new king rising in the west. *pulls hair* Who could it be?

  • The looks on both Sam and Dean’s faces the moment they thought Ruby turned them over were killing me. They both looked so wretched and guilty.

  • Who would have thought Dean would be genuinely surprised by the sexual tension between Ruby and Tammi. Hee.

  • Can we have Sam splashing water in his face and brushing his hair back every episode, please? *is in her bunk*

  • I feel actual chemistry between Dean and Ruby in that last scene. Maybe it’s the fact they potentially share the same destiny. Maybe it’s the fact they both try to protect Sam. Maybe her revelations gave him something to fight for. Who's giving their humanity up without a fight, right?

  • The backstory they gave Ruby works fine. I couldn’t have asked for anything more because this way she’s bound to both Sam and Dean. She was human, she didn’t want any of it and still she managed to go through hell, literally, turn out a demon but still carrying a soul.

  • Dean is hellbound and maybe it’s not the fact that he’s going to leave Sam alone anymore that’s the most terrifying. Maybe it’s that he could turn into the very thing they hunt. *wibbles* And just how much does it suck that she doesn’t have means to break him out of the deal after all.

  • The thing that caught me by surprise, made me think and then actually started a chain reaction of new possibilities is the fact that in the original script, it hadn’t been Dean who stabbed the demon over and over again and pitchforked her pretty ass back to hell.
    Come to think of it, I actually like this version better. I don’t know what it’s supposed to mean, but it’s certainly leaving a hell of a lot of interesting options to dismantle.

  • I remember what it's like. Being human. And that right there is a spark of hope, right?


    Caps: all clickable thumbs! I even colored them a bit.


  1. Detectives Bachmann and Turner. Hell yeah.


  2. Why does the rabbit always get screwed in the deal?


  3. Awww.


  4. demonic!Sam = ♥


  5. Oh Dean.


  6. *guh*


  7. Every hellbound soul, everyone turns into something else.


This show rocks my salt. It's so good to have you back, Supernatural.
 
 
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Jennifer: Jared&Jensendaydreamer1984 on February 1st, 2008 01:50 pm (UTC)
the teeth + bugs in the food + slit wrist= gross!! BUT SN= AWESOME!!
I liked this episode, and I did't mind Ruby either! Im sad to hear that she can't stop Dean from going to hell...there's gotta be something that can be done.
ヴェレーナ: impala cautionongiara on February 1st, 2008 05:13 pm (UTC)
Gross... Awesome... it's no contest :)

Yeah, I really like how Ruby fits into the myth arc and I wouldn't mind to see more of her from hereon. And don't worry, someone's going to break Dean out of the deal. Even if it means Sam has to march into hell himself to do so. ♥
Pretentious McBoobies: Dean [pretty]lightly on February 1st, 2008 01:57 pm (UTC)
I hearted this ep so much it hurts.

Wasn't it Sam that was supposed to kill the demon? I remember reading it and then I forgot. This is why I can do spoilers and not actually be spoiled come the episode, because I have a mind like I sieve, I forget things at the drop of a hat.......wait, what was I saying?


Sam's hair was very pretty in this one, I'm sure there are some other thinking things I could talk about, but I seem forever stuck in the shallow. Mmmmmm Sammy.
ヴェレーナ: sam drawingongiara on February 1st, 2008 05:20 pm (UTC)
Me too. And if the other three episodes are only half as good, it's bound to be a fantastic month :)

Wasn't it Sam that was supposed to kill the demon?
Yup, he was. (See, your sieve ain't got that big holes after all ^_~) No idea why they changed this, maybe they thought it would be too early on to go that path or the whole Dean story arc cam into play on rather short notice?

Sam certainly presented quite the distraction again with his prettiness. Shallow is a good place to be stuck!
Jo: Dean Sam Save Meapieceofcake on February 1st, 2008 02:02 pm (UTC)
Agreed with everything you said :-)

Glad I'm not the only one who wanted to heave at the maggots!

I don't read the sides, so who was originally supposed to stab the demon?
ヴェレーナ: sam visionongiara on February 1st, 2008 05:23 pm (UTC)
Oh I'm pretty sure there was plenty having throughout the fanbase during that scene. And I was chewing on my breakfast while that was playing. Ugh. I should know better.

Originally, it was Sam stabbing the demon pretty much the same way Dean did. No idea why they changed it but I guess the grimness of the act fit the new info on Dean in a nice speculative way *shrugs* Let's wait and see.
(no subject) - apieceofcake on February 1st, 2008 06:49 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Eden: Gordon: NEVAR FORGET!!1111!!overstreets on February 1st, 2008 02:05 pm (UTC)
The new king rising in the west has me SO EXCITED.

I agree about the chemistry. Dean and Ruby had it. <3
ヴェレーナ: rubyongiara on February 1st, 2008 05:24 pm (UTC)
Same here. I want the writers back in their secret room working their magic. Mwah.

Haha, Dean/Ruby FTW.
°°  £å  §âM¥  °°: SPN * Dean LIPSlasamy on February 1st, 2008 02:52 pm (UTC)
You wann a kill me? Get in line, bitch. Me likey.
FTW!!!!

oh show ♥

demonic!Sam? it's orgasmig, holy shit =O

Can we have Sam splashing water in his face and brushing his hair back every episode, please?
HOLYFUCKINCOW ...second orgasm LOL

Dean is hellbound and maybe it’s not the fact that he’s going to leave Sam alone anymore that’s the most terrifying. Maybe it’s that he could turn into the very thing they hunt. *wibbles*
*cries in desperation*

LOLZ, you've just commented mine XDDD
Great perverted minds think alike XDD

ヴェレーナ: sd hunted h/congiara on February 1st, 2008 06:44 pm (UTC)
Haha, glad to know you're enjoyed this too :)

Hey, we just rock for sharing our perverted great minds *wiggles eye brows*
.pippilottah on February 1st, 2008 04:04 pm (UTC)
It was so good to have the Winchesters back, I missed our boys.

I really like Ruby and I sort of want to ship Dean/Sam/Ruby :P

Such pretty pictures. If we're allowed to bring pics for Asylum, I'm so gonna make you ask you very nicely to color photos for me ;)
ヴェレーナ: ash dr badassongiara on February 1st, 2008 06:47 pm (UTC)
Yay. And the best, we're going to have them for another three weeks to come *fistpump*

The idea of that threesome crossed my mind as well. Surely, there has to be fic, right?

Aww thanks. When do we actually know whether we can bring our own pictures or not?
(no subject) - pippilottah on February 1st, 2008 08:05 pm (UTC) (Expand)
(no subject) - ongiara on February 6th, 2008 11:29 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Heidi: spn sam [resist me]heizqu on February 1st, 2008 04:08 pm (UTC)
I was eating during the maggots in the burger scene. Which, yeah, was a big mistake. Note to self: Never eat while watching SPN.

He’s so gonna kick your dead asses.

DAMN RIGHT. Sam FTMFW.

Caps! \o/ *stares*

ヴェレーナ: J2 chi-con dorksongiara on February 1st, 2008 06:48 pm (UTC)
ROFL Let me guess, breakfast? Cause that's what I was having and it wasn't pretty either. We should really try to do the eating thing before watching SPN *nods*

^__^
'Cos you give me Technicolor dreams: [SN] ♫♫ I Should be the onespeakfree on February 1st, 2008 05:06 pm (UTC)
You forgot the motel's theme. Bullfighter!! Olé!! hahahaha ♥♥
ヴェレーナ: sd wrestlingongiara on February 1st, 2008 05:09 pm (UTC)
\o/ OMG you're right!!! How could that have slipped me? Surely, this can't be a coincidence *shifty eyes* I'm starting to believe it's canon.
Tinka: Winchestersgwaevalarin on February 1st, 2008 09:24 pm (UTC)
But Sammy, how could you leave Dean alone like that? Am going to have a hard time forgiving you that one.

Well, what was he supposed to do? Stay and watch his brother die?

Can we have Sam splashing water in his face and brushing his hair back every episode, please? *is in her bunk*

Yes, please. Where can I sign?

ヴェレーナ: sd dean showongiara on February 6th, 2008 11:04 pm (UTC)
Well, what was he supposed to do? Stay and watch his brother die?
In this case, yeah. I mean we know how fast the killings were in the other cases and the way Dean was hacking up blood and all within seconds, he would have never lasted until Sam got to the witches. Which kinda means Sam left his brother to die alone on a stainy hotel carpet. Sure, it probably was a relfex in trying to do everything possible but it's rather unlikely, right? Or so me thinks^^

Yes, please. Where can I sign?
Haha *waves sheet of paper* Right there, please. ;)
(no subject) - gwaevalarin on February 7th, 2008 08:20 am (UTC) (Expand)
cetpar on February 1st, 2008 09:58 pm (UTC)
Your caps = pretty.

I didn't post a reaction, but I loved this episode. I have already rewatched, but I have to skip the teeth and the maggots because ewwwwwwwww. Gross!

in the original script, it hadn’t been Dean who stabbed the demon over and over again

Really? I didn't know that. I take it was Sam who did the stabbing in the original script?

It shouldn’t be as hot as it is seeing him all stone-faced bent at the wheel of the impala on his way vengeance.

Uhm, yeah. That and kicking the door in....

Also, I haven't rewatched AHBL pt2 lately, but Sam's Impala scene --with the camera focus on the speeding Impala's headlight to Sam's determined face--really pinged me as being similar to the scene in AHBL when Dean is racing to the crossroad to make the deal. I must rewatch, but if so... interesting choice.
ヴェレーナ: dean gun-2.12ongiara on February 6th, 2008 11:10 pm (UTC)
Thanks :D

but I have to skip the teeth and the maggots because ewwwwwwwww. Gross!
Yeah, me too. Cause the other day I was cooking rice in the pan and it looked like a pan full of little maggots all of a sudden and *shudders*

I take it was Sam who did the stabbing in the original script?
Correct. Personally, I find this to make quite a difference in meaning.

but Sam's Impala scene --with the camera focus on the speeding Impala's headlight to Sam's determined face--really pinged me as being similar to the scene in AHBL when Dean is racing to the crossroad to make the deal.
Oh oh. Good eye! I definitely need to rewatch AHBL2 now and glee all over the place that they throw in stuff like that. I mean, I totally believe Kripke and Gamble do that on purpose^^
Melmad_about_dan on February 1st, 2008 10:11 pm (UTC)
I really feel bad for Dean, I mean both of the guys already gave up on saving him, and now knowing he'll have to become a demon himself, the same thing that destroyed his family and that he kills, that has to be really hard for him *hugs him*
ヴェレーナ: GA [vintage]ongiara on February 6th, 2008 11:15 pm (UTC)
It certainly has got to be hard on him, but maybe it gave him just the right amount of motivation to keep looking for loopholes after all :)
Chen-san: happychen_san on February 2nd, 2008 01:23 pm (UTC)
Yeah :D It's so great to have them back :3 and Ruby is so great :D I always liked her but after this episode I totally adore her XD
But I still wonder how Dean got the the house so fast while Sam took the car ^^"

Can we have Sam splashing water in his face and brushing his hair back every episode, please?
Oh yes *____* I sign the petition XD I was like *___* when he did that :D
ヴェレーナ: jared 5'4 assongiara on February 6th, 2008 11:17 pm (UTC)
Yeah, Ruby's kinda cool.

I still wonder how Dean got the the house so fast while Sam took the car ^^"
One further Supernatural mystery to add to the list. *deep in thought chin strokage*

I sign the petition XD I was like *___* when he did that :D
I may even sighed a bit. Hach.
zora_sourit: katherine bwzora_sourit on February 3rd, 2008 07:25 pm (UTC)
But Sammy, how could you leave Dean alone like that? Am going to have a hard time forgiving you that one.
I was so-so on that one myself. I mean, given what they knew about the witches, how could he possibly think that he would get there in time? Still, he meant well, that Sam.

Otherwise, yeah, the backstory with Ruby and the connection to Dean was cleverly done. I'm still eyeing her suspiciously, mainly because I just don't believe how she can read him like that, but she's improving ;).

Nice caps, Babe!
ヴェレーナ: life is painongiara on February 6th, 2008 11:21 pm (UTC)
given what they knew about the witches, how could he possibly think that he would get there in time? Still, he meant well, that Sam.
*braintwins* That was my train of thought as well. *hugs them both just cause* They need chocolate.

I'm still eyeing her suspiciously
A good portion of mistrusts is required with her, that's for sure. Let's see where her character is going.

Thanks!
(no subject) - zora_sourit on February 7th, 2008 01:49 pm (UTC) (Expand)
Anna: [actor] chris: dawg day afternoonshoqolad on February 4th, 2008 12:36 am (UTC)
So who killed that demon chick in the original version of the script? I'm curious :) (and it's not a spoiler anymore xD)

Yummy, picspam. You are not - by any chance - planning to make some icons from this episode, are you? ;D
ヴェレーナ: hank moodyongiara on February 6th, 2008 11:23 pm (UTC)
It was Sam who killed her in the early draft. I find it makes quite a difference who killed her, loads of ways to interpret that.

You are not - by any chance - planning to make some icons from this episode, are you? ;D
As soon as my muse back from vacation... I sure want to.
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Anna: [tv] fnl: the air we breatheshoqolad on February 6th, 2008 10:54 pm (UTC)
This is absolutely non-related to your post... but I just needed to say: YAY for signing up at lims_fnl :D *bounces*
ヴェレーナ: fnl texas foreverongiara on February 6th, 2008 10:56 pm (UTC)
You know, one could think you're stalking the sign-up post ^-^

It's all your fault, by the way. And man, I haven't made a FNL icon in my life yet.
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