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13 March 2009 @ 05:00 pm
Supernatural 4x15  
Ah show, it's good to have you back and kicking demon ass again. I missed you.



    Joe, the plumber, was a douche.

  • Watching Dean stuffing his face with a burger never gets old. Add to that haunted, betrayed eyes on the one and guilty puppy eyes on the other side and you have yourself a truly Supernatural moment of brotherly angst. I like.

  • Wherever they unearthed Sam's preppy college clothes from, he needs to wear them more often. Really, that slightly too short hoodie was hugging him in all the right places. Ngh.

  • Alistair is a compelling SOB. I can't not appreciate his evilness. I hope that big cloud of black smoke will be back to wreack more havoc soon. I wouldn't mind if they threw in some tortured!boys on top, too.

  • So, big plans for Dean, eh? Tessa better be right. He sure deserves something good to come his way.

  • POWERS!SAM!!! Seeing him cucking demons and exorcising them with a simple wave of his hand, and that determined, hard look on his face sure was smoking hot. I can see why the dark side's so alluring. Why yes, I'm shallow.

  • Speaking of Sam, it bugs me that everyone and their cat see him go Darth Vader on them. The boy needs someone to believe in him, dammit. So far, he's done everything to use that curse running through his veins for something good. It's like he's trying so hard to do amends for a crime he didn't even commit. He's been saving hosts. He's like the most efficient demon sweeping tool out there at the moment which should make their jobs easier and safer. He may even stand a rational chance against Lilith. May help avert the apocalypse. And he's all alone having family, angels and psychics telling him not to. Why? What good reason do they have?
    Good things are constantly twisted and used to manipulate, to destroy, to hurt and wreak general havoc. So someone give me a good reason why it shouldn't work the other way round. It's not the sword that cuts, it's the person holding it. And they have a choice of what side they're fighting on. And so does Sam.
    Though lying Dean straight to the face, that's another story. I can see that Sam feels compelled to lie after how people reacted but all they have left is each other. And keeping things from one another has only ever lead to more trouble.

  • Quite satisfied with how they displayed the theme of lying in this episode, though. There were so many small scenes that were prominent. How Dean's not fooled by Sam's lies but simply tells him he shouldn't think he's stupid is so heartbreaking. And it's equally painful to watch Sam give fake promises and false hope to that dead boy.
    But they even take it further showing that the angels use lies just as well to manipulate and as a means to an end. Looks like not only humans sin.

  • Also, I quite liked Tessa's speech at the end and how it leaves you juggling with thoughts. Is lying born out of our innermost fear? Do we lie because we're scared? And if there's no miracles, is there a destiny then? And if so, how set and fixed would our destiny be? How much can we bend and change it?

  • I'm somewhat glad they killed off Pamela. *gasp* It's just that I always found her quiddity rather irritating. I gotta second her opinion on Sam's ass, though. It is a fine one.

  • That said. Save the friendly neighborhood reaper, save the world.


Next week's ep looks promising, too. *wibbles*
 
 
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Annemiekannemiek81 on March 13th, 2009 04:22 pm (UTC)
i loved the Joe the Plumber ref so much! He's from Holland! (well Holland in Ohio that is, but still! hahaha)

The Chachi ref was cute too and man, I really loved this ep. So many cool things, Misha looked hot! Lindsay was back as Tessa, I adore her! and yea, just awesome. And Alistar was really good!

Ohh and the Outsiders ref with the whole Angel vs Demon is Soc' vs Greasers thing! wheee

Too bad that Sam's sleeve was visible in the mirror when that black smoke came into the house :p hahaha, they were supposed to be ghosts huh? :p
ヴェレーナ: Rubyongiara on March 13th, 2009 04:26 pm (UTC)
Too bad that Sam's sleeve was visible in the mirror
Haha, good catch.

My head was swirling with the pop culture references this ep. Like how Dean's eyes lit up at the Amityville ref. Hee. I had to google the Chachi thing, though. *feels all educated now*
Annemiek: Katie as Rubyannemiek81 on March 13th, 2009 04:35 pm (UTC)
LOL noo now I feel old! hahah i was so in love with Chachi :p

Ohhh the Amityille thing was awesome too huh? I did a course at Long Island University and we drove past the house a few times, we never got out and stopped, were too scared, haha
ヴェレーナ: Sam gloomy thoughtsongiara on March 14th, 2009 09:11 am (UTC)
Nah, don't feel old. When I was younger, I barely watched tv at all.

I did a course at Long Island University and we drove past the house a few times, we never got out and stopped, were too scared, haha
Haha, you had the chance to go all Ghostfacers and you didn't? Chickens!! I wouldn't have set foot in there either ;)
.pippilottah on March 13th, 2009 04:27 pm (UTC)
I really liked the episode as well, it was good to have the show back.

I snorted loudly at the Joe the Plumber bit.

Watching Dean stuffing his face with a burger never gets old
Word. And it made me miss the US actually. I don't think I've eaten as many burgers in my life (combined) as I did when I went there.
ヴェレーナ: sd bluesongiara on March 13th, 2009 04:34 pm (UTC)
I snorted loudly at the Joe the Plumber bit.
Same here. It's like made for Dean haha.

I don't think I've eaten as many burgers in my life (combined) as I did when I went there.
Trufax. And the size of the burgers there? Just thinking back to that special I had in Chicago with two of those supersized burgers and french fries on the side. So crazy but deliciously good. Thank god you can take the rest to go. Speaking of, were you sort of underwhelmed by the hot dogs as well? Everything lived up to my expectations but the hot dogs. There's just nothing on them and it's not even a good sausage in that bun.

Edited at 2009-03-13 04:36 pm (UTC)
.pippilottah on March 13th, 2009 04:39 pm (UTC)
Yeah even just the "normal" burgers were huge and sooo good.
Absolutely. I wanted to get myself a $1 NY hot dog (I briefly considered pulling a Liz Lemon and buying them all but I was too afraid of the other people in line) and I didn't even eat all of it because it hardly tasted like anything.
ヴェレーナ: Psych [Hell's Angels]ongiara on March 14th, 2009 09:08 am (UTC)
The burgers were awesome! I see where Dean's coming from LOL

Haha, you should have so bought the whole Hot Dog cart. But yeah, I had a couple while in the US but only because we were to cheap to go to diners all the time ^_^
.pippilottah on March 14th, 2009 10:23 am (UTC)
I was just excited about everything (including the food) being so cheap, haha.

Speaking of food, when you go to San Fran you have to get clam chowder in a sourdough bread bowl at the Wharf. It's delicious.
ヴェレーナ: castiel perditionongiara on March 14th, 2009 12:41 pm (UTC)
when you go to San Fran you have to get clam chowder in a sourdough bread bowl at the Wharf.
OMG that already sounds like something to die for. And I love fish and the like so that definitely goes on my to-eat list. Thanks!
.pippilottah on March 14th, 2009 12:45 pm (UTC)
Apparently it's a San Francisco specialty and from what the people at my hostel told me, you get the best one down by Fisherman's Wharf. Where are you going to be staying?
ヴェレーナ: sd gloatingongiara on March 14th, 2009 12:55 pm (UTC)
We're staying in the area of Filbert and Van Ness Ave which is close the Fisherman's Wharf. So that should be easy to get to :) San Francisco specialty, here we come LOL
.pippilottah on March 14th, 2009 01:01 pm (UTC)
Eee, I'm so jealous, I would love to go back for a couple of weeks.
astri13: Deanshowastri13 on March 13th, 2009 04:31 pm (UTC)
So someone give me a good reason why it shouldn't work the other way round. It's not the sword that cuts, it's the person holding it.

I think it's basically about the price for being able to wield that sword. Angels likely know that humans naturally are not meant to have such powers and Sam amped them up majorly in a pretty short time, from Criss Angel to now.

Pam as a psychic probably felt something supernaturally amiss. And Dean recognizes disturbing behavioural signs - Sam's speech in SAV compared to a lot of speeches demons usually give "I'm better, stronger, superior to you, puny human."

I don't know if you read spoilers? Like from Aussiello? But he put something out there for clarification of that issue.
ヴェレーナ: Jensen armsongiara on March 14th, 2009 09:07 am (UTC)
I think it's basically about the price for being able to wield that sword.
Could be. Maybe it could also be that there's something as a destiny after all and maybe Sam's way leads into the dark except for when he stops making use of the demon powers at all? *shrugs* I just wish they'd give us hints as for the reasons. Cause this way I just think the angels stupid for not even trying to use this evil for good.

Aussiello? But he put something out there for clarification of that issue.
I read spoilers when they cross my way but I haven't really been keeping up to date with them. I shall look this up on Ausselios site again. Maybe it'll give me some peace of mind LOL Thanks!
astri13astri13 on March 14th, 2009 12:34 pm (UTC)
There is actually a new promo for episode 16 from the Space Channel over on youtube that pretty much reveals the big spoiler. Don't know if you want to already know?
ヴェレーナ: sam bloody Maryongiara on March 14th, 2009 12:38 pm (UTC)
Yes, thank you. I saw it an hour or so ago ;D It does explain a lot and shouldn't be as hot as it is. But man, Sam what on earth are you doing?
justfreefallinjustfreefallin on March 13th, 2009 05:11 pm (UTC)
Mir hat die Folge auch ausgesprochen gut gefallen. Habe mal wieder nicht viel verstanden, worauf die sich da immer beziehen. Und ehrlich gesagt fehlt mir wohl anscheind auch ganz viel Gehirnschmalz um solche ausgeknügelten Gedankengänge zu basteln.
Was ich aber immer weiß... die Jungs schauen lecker aus. Mehr brauch' ich nunmal nicht. ;-)

Zustimmen muss ich dir bei der Pamela Sache, ich bin auch froh, dass sie weg ist. Ehrlich. Fehlt nur noch Ruby, was auch immer sie für eine Funktion hat diese Saison, sie mag mir irgendwie nicht aufgehen.

Weißt du, ob die nächsten 3 Wochen auch wieder Folgen kommen? Oder sind wieder irgendwelche Pausen? Das käme mir ganz recht...
ヴェレーナ: sd+bobbyongiara on March 14th, 2009 09:02 am (UTC)
Was ich aber immer weiß... die Jungs schauen lecker aus
Das würd ich so unterschreiben, ja. Und diese Folge war auch die Lighting wieder sehr schön eingesetzt. *nick*

Hehe, ich glaube Rubys Rolle wird gegen Ende der Staffel noch entlüftet.

Soweit ich weiß laufen die Folgen bis 4.19 am Stück und die übrigen drei ab Walpurgis. Das Staffelfinale läuft somit am 14. Mai. Was diesmal auch heißt, wir müssen am Asylum-Morgen nicht auch noch ner neuen Folge hinter her jagen ;)