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24 April 2009 @ 05:50 pm
Supernatural 4x19  
Wow, that one took me by surprise.

    We're not exactly a nuclear family.

  • Let's not beat around the bush, I have loads of issues with the whole lost brother thing BUT the whole Winchester angst with a season 1/2 feel to it that story line brought with it made up for a whole lot of it. Kinda glad, though, that there won't be a third Winchester brother riding in the backseat of the Impala. They just don't strike me as the threesome types ;P

  • It's kinda funny how half the story line remotely concerning John is dealt with on cell phones. When do they ever recharge them all anyway?

  • The snapshot of their nomadic, spartan life at the beginning of the episode was love. A sleep drunken Dean unfolding himself from the Impala's front seat, Sam brushing teeth while leaning on the hood, smelly tuna sandwich from the day before...
    And then that beautiful, vast and secluded place they're at that just segregates them even more from the normal people was just nicely done.

  • Agent Nugent. Haha. ♥

  • Paper, rock, scissors. For the second time. I may went all awww.

  • It's interesting to see just how differently the boys reacted to the big news.

    "I think it's too late for us. But for Adam, he's still got a chance."
    To me it looked like Dean went from angry to protective within a heartbeat. It only makes it more pronounced just how much he worshiped John. Seems like he had a hard time accepting that John - who'd always preeched just how important family was - may have lied to him about Adam. Especially since John and Adam shared ordinary father-son activities (albeit scarcly), that had always been forsaken to Sam and Dean.

    And it's the moment Dean understands what John was trying to do that he's going all hellbend on doing the same. My heart just broke for Dean here. He's always acting all devil-may-care but in fact, he's the one who'd do everything for his family. His determination to protect Adam and do everything in his power to grant him a normal life reminded me why I love Dean so much.

    "So it's over for you?" - "It's never over."
    Took me a bit longer to link the rebellious wayward son that went off to Stanford to this rough, emotionally detached Sam here. It pained me to see him giving that no-emotional-attachements speech to Adam so easily. Sure, Sam's learned all this the hard way and maybe that's exactly why it hurts so much to see him having turned into the person he's hated so much. It's just so sad how this life has hardened him in such a way and made him sort of blind to other options. Almost like he's given up hope. Or like Dean's phrased it, 2it's too late for them." *gulps*

  • Ngh. Dean beating the crap out of the ghouls there was hot and reminded me how I missed those fight scenes lately. Guns are cool and so are psychic powers but there's nothing like some fancy martial arts moves. *is shallow*

  • The bits and pieces of implicit John angst maybe killed me a little. Had to imagine him seeing his second chance in Adam. And how he was trying to make up for some of the things he could never give Sam and Dean like taking Adam to baseball games. *sobs* Looks like John had a lot more demons than could have been assumed.

  • HURT SAM!!!! STRAPPED DOWN ON A TABLE!!! BLOODY!!! I approve.

  • I absolutely loved the closing scene even though it ripped out my heart and stomped the sucker flat.
    Dean: "You know, I finally get why you and dad butted heads so much. You two are practically the same person. I mean, I worshiped the guy. I dressed like him. I acted like him.I listen to the same music. But you are more like him than I will ever be."
    Oh, boys. *heartfisting*
 
 
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ヴェレーナ: sd impalaongiara on April 24th, 2009 06:11 pm (UTC)
It had a nice old fashioned simple brother angst feel to it that I hadn't realise I'd missed.
Exactly. Guess that's the aspect of the episode I loved most. They just angst so beautifully *nodnod*
Steffi: Supernatural - Dean Sam The Road So Farlegoline on April 24th, 2009 04:05 pm (UTC)
See, that's why I listen to Becky's reviews. We got the same taste. No way I'm EVER going to watch that episode after all that I've I read about it :-)

By the way, had a feeling you'd like it :-)

Edited at 2009-04-24 04:06 pm (UTC)
ヴェレーナ: Bottom of the Hillongiara on April 24th, 2009 06:13 pm (UTC)
Well, you guys seemed to have disagreed on TM@TEOTB but well, your choice. ;)

And as I said, I do have my issues with this episode, but I can't not be charmed by the total season 1/2 brotherly angst they put into it. Ah, how I'd missed that.
Annemiek: Family Businessannemiek81 on April 24th, 2009 04:18 pm (UTC)
You know how much I loved Adam :) and yea, I hope he's with John
ヴェレーナ: Sam Oh no you didn'tongiara on April 24th, 2009 06:14 pm (UTC)
Ah, those Winchesters just break my heart.
Tinka: Winchestersgwaevalarin on April 24th, 2009 08:07 pm (UTC)
Paper, rock, scissors. For the second time.
Dean will never learn, will he?

I think Sam really has lost hope. His family is cursed. Everytime time he gets close to someone they get hurt. For Sam that's just turned into a fact and it breaks my heart. I think in a way he wants to protect Adam. Tell him now before he has to learn it the hard way, too.

Dean, on the other hand, sees the possibility to break the "curse". It's too late for him and Sam but Adam can still have a more or less normal life and Dean'd do anything do make sure he won't lose that.
ヴェレーナ: sd churchongiara on April 25th, 2009 10:19 am (UTC)
Dean's optimism is admirable and I just love him more for it.

For Sam that's just turned into a fact and it breaks my heart. I think in a way he wants to protect Adam. Tell him now before he has to learn it the hard way, too.
Very probable. It's no less heartbreaking, of course. Oh boys, they all need a break, they really do.
Melmad_about_dan on April 24th, 2009 08:48 pm (UTC)
This was such an emotional episode!! from beginning to end.

I totally agree with you on how both boys reacted to the fact that they had a brother in completely different ways. They both would deserve to be envious of Adam but none of them showed anger or anything at him (well except when Dean tried to kill him at the restaurant), both of them did what they thought was best to protect him. Dean tried to keep him safe at any cost and take him out of the equation while Sam wanted to teach him how to hunt.

I think that overall this was a really emotional and family centered episode. It broke me in several parts like in the ending or when Dean looked at the pictures on Adam's living room but it was really good =)

Good review, hun.
ヴェレーナ: sd looking downongiara on April 25th, 2009 10:22 am (UTC)
I think that overall this was a really emotional and family centered episode. It broke me in several parts
Same here. Every time I think they couldn't possible beat that, they just do something that cracks me a bit more. It's almost like they're really cursed. Poor guys. ♥

Thanks, hon. Hope you're doing fine.
Sarah!: [SPN] Pierce my soulkillmotion on April 24th, 2009 11:19 pm (UTC)
IA ON ALL COUNTS. This is me being lazy but honestly, I do agree!
ヴェレーナ: Jared [don't fuck with my duck]ongiara on April 25th, 2009 10:23 am (UTC)
YAY :)
Vera: Supernatural (Sam: Never Again)raths_kitten on April 25th, 2009 01:07 am (UTC)
Heh, I've read at least two fics where they recharge the cell phones. One might have even been the last SPN novel? I forgot.

I loved their first location! I wanted them to wash up in the ocean. :)

It pained me to see Sam hardened so much, too. But I think in a way, he wanted the same thing Dean wanted. To protect Adam. And Sam knew from experience that you can't just leave for uni and leave it all behind. He didn't want Adam to go through the same. (And thinking of it, if John had trained him, he might have survived the ghoul attack.)

However I admit I had to laugh out loud when Sam first asked him if he had friends and then said 'not anymore, you don't' like he was static a fact.
ヴェレーナongiara on April 25th, 2009 10:29 am (UTC)
But but fics aren't canon though I wish some were. Ah, the SPN novels. I'm just eying Bone Key on my book shelf and had totally forgotten I even had it \o/ Guess that's what happens when you leave stuff in two different apartments *facepalm*

And Sam knew from experience that you can't just leave for uni and leave it all behind. He didn't want Adam to go through the same
Exactly. Sam had learned all of that the hard way and I guess that's just what makes it all the more painful to see. It's not the fact, that he's become his father (because that's quite okay considering their lives) but the knowledge that that's exactly what he'd been running from as a teen and young twen. Kind of heartbreaking.

I admit I had to laugh out loud when Sam first asked him if he had friends and then said 'not anymore, you don't' like he was static a fact.
Haha. And *gulps* cause I guess he really was stating a fact there.
Vera: Supernatural (Boys: Road To Nowhere)raths_kitten on April 26th, 2009 01:11 am (UTC)
Nyah, not canon, but somebody else thought of it. ;)

Heh, I know, I always need something I have in the other apartment. (Although at uni it's just a small room, still technically counts. *lol*) Like this week I wanted to listen to my iPod, the battery was all empty - and my charger here at home. Or over Easter, when I really wanted to watch Wildfire but forgot the DVDs, so I ended up dling avis. *lol*

Anyhow, going all off topic. I really liked Bone Key. I never finished the 2nd novel. But Keith R.A. DeCandio is really good! I hope he will stick with the novels and write some more.
justfreefallinjustfreefallin on April 27th, 2009 08:55 am (UTC)
Mir fehlen ja immer wieder die Worte, um diese Familie zu beschreiben. Mir hat die Folge gefallen, eben weil's mal wieder nur um die Familie ging.
ヴェレーナ: john collageongiara on April 27th, 2009 03:24 pm (UTC)
Mir hat die Folge gefallen, eben weil's mal wieder nur um die Familie ging.
So lässt sich's natürlich auch zusammenfassen :D Vor allem merkt man dann auch erstmal wie man das Family-Element in letzter Zeit vermisst hat. Zumindest ging's mir so.
Jennifer: Jared Heedaydreamer1984 on April 27th, 2009 03:23 pm (UTC)
I LOVEd that they did the rock paper scissors again!
ヴェレーナ: jared 5'4 assongiara on April 27th, 2009 03:24 pm (UTC)
Haha, it never gets old, does it? *loves on the writers*